IRONIC? II

I don't really like sequels. The only ones that I felt were better than their original counterparts were Hot Shots Part Deux, Terminator 2, and yeah sure Spiderman II, coz the villain's jaw actually moves in this one.  The first movie with spiderman underneath his mask and the Green Goblin with a fixed mask looks more like a Chinese movie with English voice overs! But back to the point, I guess sequels sometimes arent meant to entertain the audience, and simply reveal that the creator doesnt have closure on his first creation!

So, I am back to fighting about whats Ironic! As I pointed out I am not the only one to feel this way about Alanis' song Ironic! While browsing bloggish sites, I came across this one which kinda tore her song down too harsher than I did and there was a comment that stated:

"Hi, I'm an English teacher. I hate to tell you, but you are all sadly "unenlightened." There are 3 different types of irony. Here are some definitions for you:
Situational Irony: This occurs when there is a discrepancy between the actual circumstances and those that would seem appropriate, or between what one anticipates and what actually comes to pass (The song is full of situational irony)
Verbal irony: The discrepancy between what is said and what is meant. Sarcasm is a form of verbal irony. It is exhibited when Mr. Play It Safe thinks "Well, isn't this nice?" He actually means the exact opposite. Now, don't you feel stupid? Maybe Alanis is smart after all.

Now, I know that this comment was not made out to me though I am gonna address it. But I love it when someone pulls out an "Oxford dictionary" definition to prove their point. Worst way to begin a debate, worst way to end it, unless you are in the 1st grade. And yeah bless the souls of the kids who learn English from this teacher! 

To elucidate why I am being mean, the comment has exactly the same weakness as the song! Sometimes it takes more than a line to reveal Irony which is why Alanis toppled, sometimes it takes more than a line to explain the meaning of a word or expression such as "situational irony!" topple goes the English Teacher!

Lets say I anticipated I would be working today at 12:00, and come 12:00 I really havta take a shit! This discrepancy in what I anticipated and what comes to "pass" (haha) does not make my shitting/passing IRONIC! 

If I am waiting for a taxi, anticipating availability, and there is none, this is NOT situational irony!

Situational Irony requires much more of a playback in events, thought, etc to be established!

This is how I look at irony!

Case I: Lets consider Julius Caeser being stabbed:

Julius Caeser did not expect to get stabbed, and he did get stabbed! Is that Ironic! Fuck no!

Julius Caeser did not expect to get stabbed and he went to the senate that day just to meet Brutus, who stabbed him! Ironic? Borderline Ironic!

Julius Caeser was warned of the ides of March, knew he was in danger, dint know whether he should go to the senate that day , but thought, nothing can happen to me, my friend Brutus is there! and  Brutus stabbed him!  YES, IRONIC!

Case II: Very hindi movie setting, a business man who takes bribes and hides money from the IRS is busted

The lala has black money, doest expect to get busted and gets busted. Ironic? NAHIN!

The lala started taking bribes, evading taxes so that his son could be a rich man, and avoid all the hardships he went through as a child, but the son becomes a police affsar, and busts him! Ironic? BAHUT IRONIC!

Okay, now I have closure, I can go to sleep in peace. 'Thank you', Alanis, coz you oughta know!